After the incident at the 'knockdown' tournament, I did some serious thinking about my training in general and along with two times world champion Pat McKay and Davis Quinn formed our own club which we called 'System 80's', The name derived from us being in the 1980's and it incorporated what people term today as 'cross-training', we also incorporated western boxing techniques, grappling, etc. We formed an association because we wanted to gain recognition from the Scottish Karate Board of Control which we did."

"Some time later Pat went abroad and Davie left to do other things, so I changed the name to the present one - Tei Karate Association."

"The name Tei incidentally comes from a West African word which means 'Today', because that was what I was doing - today's type of karate. The knock down incident led me to explore many martial arts avenues. I spent some time in Thailand, which again made me realise, after seeing those Thai boxers, fitness levels, that my training had to change dramatically."

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